you go Syd dont listen to waves of change
as long as i dont have to learn the metric system im square
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| Author: | Sydius [ Fri May 13, 2005 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | LONG LIVE POWER OF TWO! |
I just read over at Slashdot that back in ?98, they officially switched the standard for kilo-, giga-, etc. to be equal to powers of ten, to match the non-computer standard. That is a fucking load of rubbish. Base-10 has no fucking place in computers! There is a reason why everything has always been in powers of two, and that reason persists today! It just makes fucking sense! Hey, kiddies, let?s all make our computers slower so that we can pretend our hard drivers are bigger! *sigh* I refuse to accept that standard. A byte will always be 8 bits, a KB will always be 1024 B, MB will always be 1024 KB, and a GB will always be 1024 MB. Period. |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Fri May 13, 2005 3:00 pm ] |
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you go Syd dont listen to waves of change as long as i dont have to learn the metric system im square
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| Author: | Xuri [ Fri May 13, 2005 3:53 pm ] |
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I'm with you, Syd. |
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| Author: | Dev Viperrious [ Fri May 13, 2005 11:29 pm ] |
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Hehe the metric system is ok, but I dont understand why anyone would even try to make computer memory in base 10...that makes no sense. Obviously it was done by someone who has no clue about how computers work. Though I must admit that I have wondered what would happen years and years down the road with then home PC has 12,342,934,871 google bytes of memory and 928,343,234,234,987 gaggle bytes of video memory. Sooner or later that number "might" have to change to meet the demand of modern technology. But regarding Syds comment...yeah thats just "tarded".... Dev |
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| Author: | punt1959 [ Sat May 14, 2005 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | The link... |
I couldn't seem to find this posting on /. Could you post it? I am curious on the "they" in this instance, unless it is referring the to buera of Standards for the US Government, or what. Now personally, I do remember when, as a young lad just entering Electrical Engineering, what is now called 64K, was referred to as 65K when dealing with digitial circuiters. For the mathical use of K was used when dealing with 64, and 65K was the proper term (rounded and it relayed the correct persion). Eventually the "community" shifted to a base 2 in when referencing with digital circuitry. But I am still intrigued by the "they". |
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| Author: | Aragel [ Sat May 14, 2005 11:07 pm ] |
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lets make the next number after terrabyte the Quazibyte. sounds kind of starstrekkish enough to me 
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| Author: | Sydius [ Sun May 15, 2005 12:14 am ] |
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I do not know who the ?they? are, but it was a series of comments (started more than once) to a posting about hard drives not properly supporting the flush command. Many people pointed out that the base-10 shift was just another example of trading the moral obligation to do things ?the right way? in exchange for money. Whoever ?they? are, nobody disputed it there (and that seems rare), and I verified it myself ? my hard drive clearly says ?160 GB? when, in fact, it is 160 GB in base 10, not base 2. Windows still reports sizes by base 2, which is nice, and now I finally fully understand where all that missing memory is. Several people there pointed out that the proper way to say ?GB in base 2? would be to use ?GiB?, but that is just lame ? they should use that for base 10, if anything! |
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| Author: | punt1959 [ Sun May 15, 2005 6:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ahh |
Ok, so the they is in context of hard drive manufactures. That I can fully understand, and yea, the time frame seems about right. Just didn't know if the reference was far broader. Thanks for the clarificaiton. |
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| Author: | Sydius [ Sun May 15, 2005 1:47 pm ] |
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Well they (slashdot people) implied it was more wide-spread than just HDs, but HDs are the most obvious show of it. |
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| Author: | punt1959 [ Sun May 15, 2005 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Anything that has become a retail commodity... |
Sydius wrote: Well they (slashdot people) implied it was more wide-spread than just HDs, but HDs are the most obvious show of it.
I am not aware of much else this use has spread to. I could understand the retail outlet using the decimal usage to anything that is basically a commodity item these days, and sold to the general public. But I don't much else it is in use, other then memory and hard drive space (for those terms). memory is pretty established, I dont see that changing (nor have I seen any manufacture or retail outlet change that). Harddrive manufactors/retail have been marking their products this way (ten usage) for some time now (years). So it is curious what other avenues the slash readers believe it has gotten to (although I do take slashdot readers comments with a very cautious look). But I understand what is being said now. When I first heard it, I was thinking one was referencing some formal move in the Buera of Standards for a change or somehting (some formal move by a society , like IEEE, etc). Clearly that isn't the case by your statements, and I hopefully hvae the proper context now. |
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| Author: | Sydius [ Sun May 15, 2005 11:00 pm ] |
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No, I think it is "official"... |
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