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| Author: | Lynxx [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 2:23 pm ] |
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I was just thinking about how many people are not native to english in these forums, and they all say they are sorry for their bad english. But if we as 'Natural Enlgish Speakers' goto say a german website we expect them to have a "english support page." Shows how arrogant we are  Good job all of you other language speakers, everyone's english is good! not perfect, but who cares? Im from the US and my english sucks 
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| Author: | Xelah [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:15 pm ] |
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Warum lernen Sie Deutsch nicht? (Ich bedauere mein schlechtes Deutsch, es nicht meine erste Sprache) |
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| Author: | Armada [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:34 pm ] |
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Not really. English is known to be a main language to everything. Basically, it's the most widely used language and most people who are online have english as a second language. Would be too annoying if you had to learn a language every time you wanted to get a little piece of info :p Next to that, ALOT of german people can't read or type english very well. I think that's arrogant, as for almost every online game I've played so far, there's a special german server. Drachenfells on UO I think. Next to that, they refuse to speak any other language besides french in france most of the time, so communicating there is horrid. 
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| Author: | Shadowlord [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:47 pm ] |
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What really bugs me is when people use automatic translators. Those things don't work! Stop using them! Your horrible and broken english will make more sense than what the translator puts out. (Example of crap spewed out by translator: <DoD_Mutilador> the following one happens! I add beatle in shard and subonele when desco I of it it add!) (Example of horrible and broken, yet better, english: <DoD_Mutilador> hehehe sorry my translator very sux) |
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| Author: | Galavorn [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:17 pm ] |
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English is my second language and I speak it better than most Americans. Go figure. |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 8:26 pm ] |
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eaither way i do agree translators do suck, but ya know i only noticed it when i went to london then came back. After you're out of the US for a while and come back perspectives change. |
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| Author: | Lady Roanoke [ Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:31 am ] |
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I have a german guy on my shard and we were talking oneday and he kept saying "sorry my english isnt good" And when i told him I had no problem understanding him he was shocked. English is so messed up as is. With all the slang and all that its hard for anyone. Im terrible atit and its what I speak! |
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| Author: | Lady Roanoke [ Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:31 am ] |
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oh and Dian if you come back with "well your southern and YALL are messed up anyways" youll be in trouble!!!! |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:36 pm ] |
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oh hell yea! Im from the south too, too many yanks on these forums anyways j/m
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| Author: | ThE_GuN [ Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:37 pm ] |
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Well I agree with ya all... I have English as a second language (pluss I have dyslexia, but I wont mention that). Alot of the germans writes very well compared to how long they have been teaching it in schools. But some refuses to eaven try, and its kinda sad, but arnt alot of the english speaking ppl the same way? (as Cal said) But ahh well I'm rabeling... |
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| Author: | Stormcrow [ Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:05 pm ] |
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ThE_GuN wrote: (as Cal said)
Yeah but who cares what redneck inbred southerners think anyway 
*kicks Cal over and runs from Ro covering his neck* Buhahahahaha |
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| Author: | Dian [ Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:07 am ] |
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I think Ill just go over Y'onder and not say anything 'tall |
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| Author: | Lady Roanoke [ Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:18 am ] |
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you did that very well 
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| Author: | Xelah [ Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:33 pm ] |
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Quote: pluss I have dyslexia
I put the sex back in dyslexia. (I've got it too) |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:37 am ] |
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stormcrow your just jealous because you're an idiot and no on else is and you feel all alone. |
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| Author: | Matonor [ Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:46 am ] |
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hum. it's my fifth year with englsih lessons and i still have a lot of problems. it takes me much more time to write some short posts here than in german forums, though i have great grades in english. the problem is, that schools don't really teach you to speak and write english on the fly. you do a lot of useless exercises as putting in commas or right tenses and so on. |
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| Author: | Shadowlord [ Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:41 am ] |
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I don't think the general approach to teaching foreign languages, at least here in the US, is the best that could be used. At least not for many people - Maybe some people need to learn punctuation, spelling, and grammar rules and memorize them in order to write, but most of us (Me anyhow, and I'm assuming that many other people are the same - You may think that's arrogant, but I'm assuming this because apparently it's more arrogant to assume that something you can do is NOT common) only need to hear it, read it, and use it with other people that use it, in order to internalize it, to learn it subconsciously, so we can speak, write, etc, without having to look up rules or think about them. Actually, this is how we all learned our first language anyhow, though there are people who are native speakers but are really really bad at using the language. But I suppose that's why we have classes about our native language (That is, english here in the US) in school too. And why they go over the same stuff every year until 10th grade or so.
So I suppose what I'm saying is, don't rely on the rules they teach so much, and instead just read a lot in english, preferably actual books, since they're much better at using the language correctly than people online are. If you're lucky, you'll pick up the language pretty well, and won't have to do much memorizing either. And even if you aren't talking completely right as a result (I know I'm not - you aren't supposed to start a sentence with and, for instance), you're talking colloquially anyhow, and will be understood.
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| Author: | RoseThorn [ Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:33 am ] |
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Matonor wrote: hum. it's my fifth year with englsih lessons and i still have a lot of problems. it takes me much more time to write some short posts here than in german forums, though i have great grades in english. the problem is, that schools don't really teach you to speak and write english on the fly. you do a lot of useless exercises as putting in commas or right tenses and so on.
your english is a 1000 times better than half of america's. for the comma thing, do what an english teacher told me back in elementary school: insert one everytime you pause or take a breath in your sentence 
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| Author: | Matonor [ Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:41 am ] |
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RoseThorn wrote: your english is a 1000 times better than half of america's. for the comma thing, do what an english teacher told me back in elementary school: insert one everytime you pause or take a breath in your sentence
thx one of my friends said sometime ago in a test: "ok nearly finished. only some random comma placing and I'm finished" :p |
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| Author: | Xelah [ Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:29 pm ] |
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Quote: insert one everytime you pause or take a breath in your sentence
*after running a marathon* I, just, want, you, to, know, that, commas, at, every, breath, are, not, proper, english. |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:06 pm ] |
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lol  that's awsome.
Xelah is right, it's just breaks in sentences or joining two sentences for instace. 2 sentences: bob is retarded bob rides in a wheelchair a sentence can take these two and make : Bob is retarded, and he rides in a wheelchair.
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| Author: | Armada [ Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:57 am ] |
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Cal wrote: lol
that's awsome.bob is retarded bob rides in a wheelchair a sentence can take these two and make : Bob is retarded, and he rides in a wheelchair. I never knew a comma was needed before an "and" x.x |
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| Author: | Lady Roanoke [ Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:39 am ] |
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Couldnt tell you where a comma goes
I once had a teacher say I couldnt take spainish because I didnt know my own language well enough. Too much slang where im from I supose. |
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| Author: | RoseThorn [ Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:23 am ] |
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Xelah wrote: Quote: insert one everytime you pause or take a breath in your sentence *after running a marathon* I, just, want, you, to, know, that, commas, at, every, breath, are, not, proper, english. Apparently I took breaths at appropriate times then. I was an honors/A+ English student throughout my entire school life. |
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| Author: | Lynxx [ Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:55 pm ] |
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i always sucked at grammer, but english compesition like papers i am good at those |
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